Curse

serpico · Jul 14, 2006, 07:00 AM // 07:00

has anet decided to make people want to stop playing gw, or just stop playing as a warrior. i'm pretty much in awe atm. too lose 16 armor fighting hydras or elementalists in general is obserd.
everone is bitching about the touch ranger, and they do nothing to them, but they nerf the whole warrior profesion, wtf ? oh well, guess i'm gonig to continue to play the Hero Beta, see what its all about, cause this might be one of the finally nerfs i can take.
if anyone can explain the positive in this too me please do so, cause i'm lost.
also explain the whole rune thing as well to me. if i read it right, it now doenst matter if u have a rune of absorption in at all if your fighting an elementalist. thats just so crazy.

peace

Opeth11 · Jul 14, 2006, 07:02 AM // 07:02

Elementalist bosses in Factions, anyone?

Eragon Dragonslayer · Jul 14, 2006, 07:05 AM // 07:05

what the hell is wrong with anet?! we are gonna get owned by eles now....man that sucks....

Rent · Jul 14, 2006, 07:05 AM // 07:05

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Originally Posted by serpico

too lose 16 armor fighting hydras or elementalists in general is obserd.

The 16 armor still applies vs elemental damage, it's the -2/-3/-5 damage reduction that only applies versus physical.

nebuchanezzar · Jul 14, 2006, 07:06 AM // 07:06

Well you sup abs never helped against the elementalist. Your shields reduction however did. Thats why my -2/-2 and -2/-3 shields were my favorites....now....

Avarre · Jul 14, 2006, 07:07 AM // 07:07

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Originally Posted by Eragon Dragonslayer

what the hell is wrong with anet?! we are gonna get owned by eles now....man that sucks....

Yeah, your inherent armor 80 vs eles is gonna get owned... not like all the 60al classes.

Warriors were already overpowered in PvE and PvP, eles were supposed to be higher damage dealers... and things roll along..

Eragon Dragonslayer · Jul 14, 2006, 07:11 AM // 07:11

and lemme guess....ur happy about this Avarre? lol

Avarre · Jul 14, 2006, 07:17 AM // 07:17

I couldn't care less honestly, it doesn't effect me but for the most part looks like a move to boost elementalists to their advertised position of damage dealer extroidinaire. Rather than have 1 class with best defense + best attack.

RVallant · Jul 14, 2006, 07:19 AM // 07:19

Don't eles already do enough damage as it is? They're usually the first I go for other than monks, warriors have never seemed to bother me regardless of class in pve...

RebelHero · Jul 14, 2006, 07:32 AM // 07:32

Can someone please nerf ANet?

nebuchanezzar · Jul 14, 2006, 07:34 AM // 07:34

Best defense, yep. Best attacks, again yep. The most "anti" of any class. Look at now many spells affect only melee... Every class has warrior shutdown. The game takes into account the reality(yes its a fantasy game..I know) of an ax in your skull vs. swirling chaos dust spinning around. Of course we will still use warriors. They will still do the best damage especially sustainably. Except when: Blind, Weakened, Crippled, Price of Failure, Spirit of Failure, Shadow of Fear, Faintheartedness, Reckless Haste, Insidious Parasite, vs. stances, Clumsiness, Ineptitude, smite kds, Wail of Doom, ..you get the point I think.
The shield nerf is my issue. They could be used by other classes(hello yes a necro can chest run).
Bright side...maybe more hammer warriors will come out but doubt it..

rainykwon · Jul 14, 2006, 09:04 AM // 09:04

I'm also quite upset about changing the shield reduction. I just tried playing fort aspenwood multiple times after the update and i can say now, i can be frequently wanded to death. I mean even a ranger can tank nukes better than i can

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Tiny Killer · Jul 14, 2006, 09:14 AM // 09:14

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Originally Posted by rainykwon

I mean even a ranger can tank nukes better than i can

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Rangers have always been able to tank nukes better than warriors.

Rancour · Jul 14, 2006, 09:14 AM // 09:14

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Originally Posted by Rent

The 16 armor still applies vs elemental damage, it's the -2/-3/-5 damage reduction that only applies versus physical.

If this is how it works, I don't see a huge problem. -5 damage won't save you from an Earthquake -> Aftershock combo.

And besides, warriors work fine without the extra 16 AL against elementalists (if that's the case).

My warrior uses daggers, and he doesn't die any faster than the other warriors on my team. 16 AL is quite a bit and I think it's a pointless nerf, but there's no reason to go bonkers over it. Not the end of the game for warriors people.

Witte Was · Jul 14, 2006, 01:52 PM // 13:52

Farming ice imps is much harder now, even with Elemental Resistance, Dolyak Signet and Watch Yourself, you'll get at least 1 dmg from their normal attacks.

Lord Deathknight · Jul 14, 2006, 11:16 PM // 23:16

I honestly think the last thing a warrior needs is an item to reduce physical damage, I got the damage reduction items not because I was being pummeled to death, and I got it so I can survive the elemental assault.

Will they issue shield that are damage reduction vs. elemental and I don't mean the ones that are + vs. fire and Cold and lighting, Ebon, of course the ones that currently do will go up in price.

But then again I guess I will have to dedicate another character slot just to hold the various armors and shields, they just as well make armors that have stats vs. fire and cold ect like the Elementals have.

I don’t see how this would help the spell casters anyhow, after all most of their attacks bypass armor as it was but I guess apparently not enough.

And as for the rune of Absorption, its worthless now, just as well make it a global rune, like Vigor, I know plenty of Assassins the could use it.

Elaine Donnerbalken · Jul 14, 2006, 11:50 PM // 23:50

FYI Lord Deathknight, warrior damage is far less affected by armor than elemental damage. Additional damage from attackskills ignores armor, elementalist skills apart from air normaly don't ( and even there it's only up to 25%).

Aramaki · Jul 15, 2006, 04:22 AM // 04:22

Anet's just forcing us to get all those shields with new mods, the ones with +10 armor vs. lightning/fire/earth/water etc etc. And to make more use of warding +7 weapon mods. So Anet, give us more storage lol.

MrGuildBoi · Jul 15, 2006, 04:33 AM // 04:33

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Originally Posted by serpico

oh well, guess i'm gonig to continue to play the Hero Beta

/offtopic\
dont play it, it sucks :P

narud · Jul 15, 2006, 06:10 AM // 06:10

so what if you loose 16al vs a class. It is so little it is practiaclly neglegint, and sheilds are for those that use swords and axes, and against melee builds you still get the bonus.